'Black People Love Paramore' Creator Talks Kid Fury's Influence, Meeting Hayley Williams, And More
Over the summer, podcast host Sequoia Holmes sent me a screenshot of an email with some exciting news. The email came from someone at Spotify who said that Hayley Williams of Paramore listened to Holmes’ podcast Black People Love Paramore and wanted to be on the show. Holmes would attend Paramore’s concert in Los Angeles and go backstage to conduct the interview.
By the time the logistics had been squared away, Holmes had asked me if I’d be willing to fly from Atlanta to accompany her and provide moral support. I helped her prep for the moment, but looking back, I never really asked her how it had come about. When one of your best friends asks you if you want to go meet one of your favorite musicians, you don’t ask a lot of questions.
I’d just met Holmes when Black People Love Paramore launched in 2021, and like most people, I wrongly assumed it was a podcast just about the band. I’ve appeared on the show a few times since then and have come to realize that the alternative band is just the launching pad from which Holmes has conversations about the many, varied interests of Black folks. Recently, for instance, she had The Read podcast host Kid Fury on an episode to talk about why Black people love the sitcom Golden Girls.
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Whether delving into the cultural impact of all-white parties, Uno, or Princess Diana, Holmes, and guests provide a mix of serious analysis and hilarious banter about common Black experiences.
Earlier this month, Holmes announced that Black People Love Paramore joined the worker-owned podcasting network Maximum Fun, which will allow the creator to continue to grow the show with the help of a new producer, and access to a professional studio and audio engineer. Joining the cooperative network will allow her to retain artistic control of the show, while also providing her with the help she needs to continue to grow her audience heading into the show’s third year. The podcast host, who recently went from attending Kid Fury’s stand-ups and live podcast tapings to interviewing him, said she hopes to host a live event of her own in the forthcoming year.
With this year’s success in mind, I called up my friend to ask her a few questions about Black People Love Paramore and her future goals.
xoNecole: I’ve realized that I’ve never actually talked to you about most of this because I met you right around the time you started the podcast. What was the inspiration behind starting Black People Love Paramore?
Sequoia Holmes: As a former emo child, I did love Paramore. A lot. But, I found it interesting that every time anybody would tweet about Black people loving Paramore, the responses would be filled with other Black people saying, ‘Yeah, why do we love Paramore?’ It was interesting to me that so many Black people corroborated that sentiment, but no one was sure why that was. Or people would give theories and I thought those were fun.
I thought to myself, what else do Black people overwhelmingly enjoy? Not something super obvious. I brainstormed a list and decided to make it a podcast. I had already been podcasting for some years at that point.
xoN: How do you come up with the topics for Black People Love Paramore, though? You always reach out to me with a fully formed idea, so I’m curious how you decide what fits into the identity of the show.
SH: Tony Hawk was not really in my purview like that, but someone [suggested] him on my social account, and it had the most likes. [Ideas] are either suggested to me, or it’s something that I just really want to talk about. I know a lot of Black people like Degrassi, and I love Degrassi,and I really wanted to talk about it.
xoN: What’s a topic that you weren’t previously into, but once you researched and recorded the episode, you became a true fan of?
SH: It’s definitely Golden Girls or Reba. I turned both of those on, and I was like, oh, these are a good, Black ass time with no Black characters. But I understand how we arrived here.
xoN: The Golden Girls episode featured Kid Fury. Did he come up with that topic?
SH: No, I came up with that one.
xoN: Ohh, because you knew he liked it?
SH: Yeah, just having listened to his podcast for years, I knew he really liked Golden Girls and Zelda. I pitched both, and he chose Golden Girls.
xoN: You’re a huge fan of Kid Fury and Crissle’s The Read. What other podcasts were you listening to before you decided to get into podcasting?
SH: I think The Read obviously was the most instrumental one, and most Black podcasters, I assume, would have the same take on that. I think I started listening in 2016, and I think that was the only one I listened to for years.
In 2019, I started looking for a wellness podcast, and I found Balanced Black Girl. I had already been podcasting at that time, but it inspired me to continue doing so, and I became friends with Les, the creator and host.
xoN: When you had Kid Fury on the show, did you tell him what he meant to you as a podcaster, or were you trying not to be that person?
SH: I didn’t want to freak him out just because I know he’s mentioned he gets weirded out by that type of stuff. I did [show him] an eight-year-old piece of merch, a denim hat with his avatar from their artwork cover. He was like, ‘This is crazy. I love this. This needs to come back.’ And, I brought him weed.
xoN: Earlier this year, you had a huge moment for the show where you interviewed Hayley Williams of Paramore. I don’t think I know how this originally came about. Did you reach out to Spotify, or did they contact you?
SH: I received a DM on the podcast’s account, and it was from someone who worked at Spotify, Chissy. She was inviting me to a Black alternative dinner that was taking place in LA. When I arrived, she was talking to me about Paramore and was like, ‘I’m sure you’ve seen them live, right?' I was like, unfortunately, I have not. I tried to see them live, but they canceled the show, and then when they rescheduled, I was out of town. She was like, ‘Stop right there. We’re going to change this.’
She reached out to Hayley’s manager for me to go to their show in LA. I thought that was it, but then she messaged me again a week later and was like, ‘Ummm, Hayley says she wants to come on your show. Would you be okay with that?’ ...Yeah, I’d be super okay with Hayley Williams coming on my show.
xoN: A few of the clips from the interview went viral, and you got a lot of press from it. What was it like seeing the response once the episode came out?
SH: It was shocking, overwhelming, heartwarming...I’d like to emphasize overwhelming. It was great.
xoN: Have you started to think about other dream guests that you’d want to have on the show?
SH: My top three dream guests are Kid Fury, who we can scratch off the list, Issa Rae, and Quinta Brunson. They’re harder to get, but I’ll try.
xoN: Have you thought about what else you want to do in the podcasting space?
SH: I love podcasting as a medium, so I will absolutely always do this. I’m happy to have help with this podcast because I also have a second podcast that I produce entirely myself. Right now, it’s called Glass House by Sequoia Holmes, but right now, I’m brainstorming a new title and revamping it. I fell off a little bit this year, so in 2024, I would love for it to come back stronger and have a better sense of identity to it.
For more of Sequoia, follow her on Instagram @sequoiabholmes.
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Exclusive: Dreka Gates Talks Farm Life, Self-Mastery, And Her Wellness Brand
Dreka Gates is making a name in wellness through authenticity and innovativeness. Although we were introduced to her as a music manager for her husband, Kevin Gates, she has now carved out her own lane outside of music as a wellness entrepreneur. But according to Dreka, this is nothing new.
In an xoNecole exclusive, the mom of two opened up about many things, including starting her wellness journey at 13 years old. However, a near-death experience during a procedure at 20 made her start taking her health more seriously.
“There's so many different levels, and now, I'm in a space of just integrating all of this good stuff that I've learned just about just being human, you know?” Dreka tells us. “So it's also fun because it's like a journey of self-discovery and self-mastery. That's what I call it. So it's never-ending.”
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If you follow Dreka, then you’re familiar with her holistic lifestyle, as she’s no stranger to promoting wellness, self-care, and holistic living. She even lives part-time on a Mississippi farm, not far from her grandmother and great-grandmother’s farm, where she spent some summers as a child.
While her grandmother and great-grandmother have passed on, Dreka reflects on that time in her life and how having a farm as an adult is her getting back to her roots. “So the farm was purchased back in 2017, and it was like, ah, that'll just be a place where we go when we're not touring or whatever,” she said.
“But COVID hit, and I was there, and I was on the land, and I just started remembering back to going to my grandmother's during the summertime and freaking picking peas and going and eating mulberries off the freaking tree in the bushes.
“And she literally had cotton plants. I know some people feel weird about picking cotton and stuff. She had cotton plants and I would go and pick cotton out of her garden. And she had chickens, and I literally just broke down in tears one day when I was on the farm just doing all the things, and I'm like, ‘Oh my gosh. I'm literally getting back to my roots.”
"I literally just broke down in tears one day when I was on the farm just doing all the things, and I'm like, ‘Oh my gosh. I'm literally getting back to my roots."
You can catch glimpses of Dreka’s farm life on Instagram, which shows her picking fruit and vegetables and loving on her animals like her camel Eessa. Her passion for growing and cultivating led her to try and grow all of her ingredients for her wellness brand, Dreka Wellness. However, she quickly realized that she might be biting off more than she could chew. But that didn’t stop her from fulfilling her vision.
Watch below as Dreka talks more about her business, her wellness tips, breaking toxic cycles, becoming a doula, and more.
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Tia Mowry Details The Status Of Her Relationship With Twin Sister Tamera
When we think of iconic sister duos, twin stars Tia and Tamera are often the first that come to mind. However, it seems their once inseparable bond may have drifted apart over the years.
During a sneak peek of her all-new docuseries on We TV, Tia Mowry: My Next Act, the Sister, Sister actress spoke openly about her new life following her divorce from ex-husband Cory Hardrict.
"I came into this world with a twin, and right after that, I went into a 22-year relationship," Tia shared, referring to her 14-year-long marriage with Hardrict. In the clip, she also added how challenging it’s been to cope with online chatter concerning her public separation. "People are wanting to know what happened and why it happened so much that they are trying to create narratives and stories in their own head and then putting it out there," she says.
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Tia reveals that after signing her divorce papers, she had to immediately return to work, making it difficult for her to fully process the situation without support. "I wasn't really able to fully process what really was going on," she shared. "I knew what was going on, I knew what I was doing, but I didn't have time to just stop and really process what had just happened."
"Being alone has been the most challenging part of my divorce,” Tia added. “It's times like this when I feel and wish that my sister and I were still close and I could pick up the phone and call her, but that's just not where we are right now."
However, signs of a riff in their relationship have been present for some time.
In May, Tamera spoke withET's Denny Directo at the 49th annual Gracie Awards and shared that she didn’t plan on playing Cupid for her sister Tia, following her divorce.
“See, this is the thing, Tia is living her life right now and Tia is doing Tia,” she told the reporter. “I feel like she doesn’t want any of our input right now, and I can only respect that.”
"I think she is doing her,” Tamera added.
When Tia's reality show was first announced in April, Tamera told ET that the news came as a surprise to her, as she only found out after it was made public.
"I didn't know until I found out with the rest of the world," she said. When asked if she would appear on Tia’s new series, Tamera responded candidly, "She didn't ask me. She didn't, so I take that as no."
In the past, Tia and Tamera have alluded to communication breakdowns, most apparently in their reality TV show, Tia & Tamera. On the show, the two discussed preferring to resolve issues through email rather than phone calls to avoid potential disagreements. In one episode, Tamera candidly admitted, "We really don’t have any" communication skills.
“I think we get defensive; it escalates to something more than what the argument was really about,” Tamera told her sister at the time. “We end up yelling at each other.”
“That’s not a good way of communicating. My way isn’t a good way of communicating and your way isn’t a good way of communicating,” Tia added. “And we need to find better ways of communicating.”
Now Tia embarking on a new journey with her show, Tia Mowry: My Next Act, premiering on Friday, October 4 at 9:30 p.m. ET/PT on We TV. The eight-episode reality series follows Tia as she “navigates her newly single status, a new phase of motherhood, as well as building businesses and juggling her ever-evolving career,” while reclaiming the narrative around her life and relationship post-divorce.
"I mean, I'm all about being authentic,” Tia told PEOPLE about the show in July. "[The show will] basically dive in and show the world who I am as a person. And I really wanted to do this to share my story.
She continued. "I feel like a lot of people were creating narratives without knowing a story and understanding me and understanding my feelings. And this is my opportunity to use that platform to share my truth."
Having always been part of a duo — first as a twin sister and later as a wife — Tia is now ready to embrace her independence. And we’re here for the journey.
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