'Black People Love Paramore' Creator Talks Kid Fury's Influence, Meeting Hayley Williams, And More

Over the summer, podcast host Sequoia Holmes sent me a screenshot of an email with some exciting news. The email came from someone at Spotify who said that Hayley Williams of Paramore listened to Holmes’ podcast Black People Love Paramore and wanted to be on the show. Holmes would attend Paramore’s concert in Los Angeles and go backstage to conduct the interview.
By the time the logistics had been squared away, Holmes had asked me if I’d be willing to fly from Atlanta to accompany her and provide moral support. I helped her prep for the moment, but looking back, I never really asked her how it had come about. When one of your best friends asks you if you want to go meet one of your favorite musicians, you don’t ask a lot of questions.
I’d just met Holmes when Black People Love Paramore launched in 2021, and like most people, I wrongly assumed it was a podcast just about the band. I’ve appeared on the show a few times since then and have come to realize that the alternative band is just the launching pad from which Holmes has conversations about the many, varied interests of Black folks. Recently, for instance, she had The Read podcast host Kid Fury on an episode to talk about why Black people love the sitcom Golden Girls.
Black People Love The Golden Girls ft. Kid Fury of The Read | Black People Love Paramore PodcastYouTube
Whether delving into the cultural impact of all-white parties, Uno, or Princess Diana, Holmes, and guests provide a mix of serious analysis and hilarious banter about common Black experiences.
Earlier this month, Holmes announced that Black People Love Paramore joined the worker-owned podcasting network Maximum Fun, which will allow the creator to continue to grow the show with the help of a new producer, and access to a professional studio and audio engineer. Joining the cooperative network will allow her to retain artistic control of the show, while also providing her with the help she needs to continue to grow her audience heading into the show’s third year. The podcast host, who recently went from attending Kid Fury’s stand-ups and live podcast tapings to interviewing him, said she hopes to host a live event of her own in the forthcoming year.
With this year’s success in mind, I called up my friend to ask her a few questions about Black People Love Paramore and her future goals.
xoNecole: I’ve realized that I’ve never actually talked to you about most of this because I met you right around the time you started the podcast. What was the inspiration behind starting Black People Love Paramore?
Sequoia Holmes: As a former emo child, I did love Paramore. A lot. But, I found it interesting that every time anybody would tweet about Black people loving Paramore, the responses would be filled with other Black people saying, ‘Yeah, why do we love Paramore?’ It was interesting to me that so many Black people corroborated that sentiment, but no one was sure why that was. Or people would give theories and I thought those were fun.
I thought to myself, what else do Black people overwhelmingly enjoy? Not something super obvious. I brainstormed a list and decided to make it a podcast. I had already been podcasting for some years at that point.
xoN: How do you come up with the topics for Black People Love Paramore, though? You always reach out to me with a fully formed idea, so I’m curious how you decide what fits into the identity of the show.
SH: Tony Hawk was not really in my purview like that, but someone [suggested] him on my social account, and it had the most likes. [Ideas] are either suggested to me, or it’s something that I just really want to talk about. I know a lot of Black people like Degrassi, and I love Degrassi, and I really wanted to talk about it.
xoN: What’s a topic that you weren’t previously into, but once you researched and recorded the episode, you became a true fan of?
SH: It’s definitely Golden Girls or Reba. I turned both of those on, and I was like, oh, these are a good, Black ass time with no Black characters. But I understand how we arrived here.
xoN: The Golden Girls episode featured Kid Fury. Did he come up with that topic?
SH: No, I came up with that one.
xoN: Ohh, because you knew he liked it?
SH: Yeah, just having listened to his podcast for years, I knew he really liked Golden Girls and Zelda. I pitched both, and he chose Golden Girls.
xoN: You’re a huge fan of Kid Fury and Crissle’s The Read. What other podcasts were you listening to before you decided to get into podcasting?
SH: I think The Read obviously was the most instrumental one, and most Black podcasters, I assume, would have the same take on that. I think I started listening in 2016, and I think that was the only one I listened to for years.
In 2019, I started looking for a wellness podcast, and I found Balanced Black Girl. I had already been podcasting at that time, but it inspired me to continue doing so, and I became friends with Les, the creator and host.
xoN: When you had Kid Fury on the show, did you tell him what he meant to you as a podcaster, or were you trying not to be that person?
SH: I didn’t want to freak him out just because I know he’s mentioned he gets weirded out by that type of stuff. I did [show him] an eight-year-old piece of merch, a denim hat with his avatar from their artwork cover. He was like, ‘This is crazy. I love this. This needs to come back.’ And, I brought him weed.
xoN: Earlier this year, you had a huge moment for the show where you interviewed Hayley Williams of Paramore. I don’t think I know how this originally came about. Did you reach out to Spotify, or did they contact you?
SH: I received a DM on the podcast’s account, and it was from someone who worked at Spotify, Chissy. She was inviting me to a Black alternative dinner that was taking place in LA. When I arrived, she was talking to me about Paramore and was like, ‘I’m sure you’ve seen them live, right?' I was like, unfortunately, I have not. I tried to see them live, but they canceled the show, and then when they rescheduled, I was out of town. She was like, ‘Stop right there. We’re going to change this.’
She reached out to Hayley’s manager for me to go to their show in LA. I thought that was it, but then she messaged me again a week later and was like, ‘Ummm, Hayley says she wants to come on your show. Would you be okay with that?’ ...Yeah, I’d be super okay with Hayley Williams coming on my show.
xoN: A few of the clips from the interview went viral, and you got a lot of press from it. What was it like seeing the response once the episode came out?
SH: It was shocking, overwhelming, heartwarming...I’d like to emphasize overwhelming. It was great.
xoN: Have you started to think about other dream guests that you’d want to have on the show?
SH: My top three dream guests are Kid Fury, who we can scratch off the list, Issa Rae, and Quinta Brunson. They’re harder to get, but I’ll try.
xoN: Have you thought about what else you want to do in the podcasting space?
SH: I love podcasting as a medium, so I will absolutely always do this. I’m happy to have help with this podcast because I also have a second podcast that I produce entirely myself. Right now, it’s called Glass House by Sequoia Holmes, but right now, I’m brainstorming a new title and revamping it. I fell off a little bit this year, so in 2024, I would love for it to come back stronger and have a better sense of identity to it.
For more of Sequoia, follow her on Instagram @sequoiabholmes.
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Exclusive: Viral It Girl Kayla Nicole Is Reclaiming The Mic—And The Narrative
It’s nice to have a podcast when you’re constantly trending online. One week after setting timelines ablaze on Halloween, Kayla Nicole released an episode of her Dear Media pop culture podcast, The Pre-Game, where she took listeners behind the scenes of her viral costume.
The 34-year-old had been torn between dressing up as Beyoncé or Toni Braxton, she says in the episode. She couldn’t decide which version of Bey she’d be, though. Two days before the holiday, she locked in her choice, filming a short recreation of Braxton’s “He Wasn’t Man Enough for Me” music video that has since garnered nearly 6.5M views on TikTok.
Kayla Nicole says she wore a dress that was once worn by Braxton herself for the Halloween costume. “It’s not a secret Toni is more on the petite side. I’m obsessed with all 5’2” of her,” she tells xoNecole via email. “But I’m 5’10'' and not missing any meals, honey, so to my surprise, when I got the dress and it actually fit, I knew it was destiny.”
The episode was the perfect way for the multihyphenate to take control of her own narrative. By addressing the viral moment on her own platform, she was able to stir the conversation and keep the focus on her adoration for Braxton, an artist she says she grew up listening to and who still makes her most-played playlist every year. Elsewhere, she likely would’ve received questions about whether or not the costume was a subliminal aimed at her ex-boyfriend and his pop star fiancée. “I think that people will try to project their own narratives, right?” she said, hinting at this in the episode. “But, for me personally – I think it’s very important to say this in this moment – I’m not in the business of tearing other women down. I’m in the business of celebrating them.”
Kayla Nicole is among xoNecole’s It Girl 100 Class of 2025, powered by SheaMoisture, recognized in the Viral Voices category for her work in media and the trends she sets on our timelines, all while prioritizing her own mental and physical health. As she puts it: “Yes, I’m curating conversations on my podcast The Pre-Game, and cultivating community with my wellness brand Tribe Therepē.”
Despite being the frequent topic of conversation online, Kayla Nicole says she’s learning to take advantage of her growing social media platform without becoming consumed by it. “I refuse to let the internet consume me. It’s supposed to be a resource and tool for connection, so if it becomes anything beyond that I will log out,” she says.
On The Pre-Game, which launched earlier this year, she has positioned herself as listeners “homegirl.” “There’s definitely a delicate dance between being genuine and oversharing, and I’ve had to learn that the hard way. Now I share from a place of reflection, not reaction,” she says. “If it can help someone feel seen or less alone, I’ll talk about it within reason. But I’ve certainly learned to protect parts of my life that I cherish most. I share what serves connection but doesn’t cost me peace.
"I refuse to let the internet consume me. It’s supposed to be a resource and tool for connection, so if it becomes anything beyond that I will log out."

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Throughout each episode, she sips a cocktail and addresses trending topics (even when they involve herself). It’s a platform the Pepperdine University alumnus has been preparing to have since she graduated with a degree in broadcast journalism, with a concentration in political science.
“I just knew I was going to end up on a local news network at the head anchor table, breaking high speed chases, and tossing it to the weather girl,” she says. Instead, she ended up working as an assistant at TMZ before covering sports as a freelance reporter. (She’s said she didn’t work for ESPN, despite previous reports saying otherwise.) The Pre-Game combines her love for pop culture and sports in a way that once felt inaccessible to her in traditional media.
She’s not just a podcaster, though. When she’s not behind the mic, taking acting classes or making her New York Fashion Week debut, Kayla Nicole is also busy elevating her wellness brand Tribe Therepē, where she shares her workouts and the workout equipment that helps her look chic while staying fit. She says the brand will add apparel to its line up in early 2026.
“Tribe Therepē has evolved into exactly what I have always envisioned. A community of women who care about being fit not just for the aesthetic, but for their mental and emotional well-being too. It’s grounded. It’s feminine. It’s strong,” she says. “And honestly, it's a reflection of where I am in my life right now. I feel so damn good - mentally, emotionally, and physically. And I am grateful to be in a space where I can pour that love and light back into the community that continues to pour into me.”
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There is a very specific reason why I decided to write this article before the holiday season officially gets underway. It’s because I once read a study that said it’s quite common for most Americans to double the amount of alcohol that they consume between Thanksgiving and New Year’s Day.
It makes sense when you stop to think about all of the holiday parties, time off, and moments spent with loved ones that transpire around this time of year. And while there is certainly nothing wrong with enjoying some mulled wine, real-deal eggnog, or peppermint martinis, because your health is something that never “takes a vacation,” I thought it was important to share with you some of the benefits (pros) and challenges (cons) that can arise from alcohol consumption.
My main motive? Mostly, I hope that it will serve as a solid reminder to embrace all of the things that you adore about this time of year, so long as you do it in moderation and you weigh the costs.
Especially as far as drinking alcohol is concerned.
PRO: Manages Blood Sugar Levels
GiphyHere’s something that you may have never seen coming. Were you aware of the fact that alcohol can actually help to stabilize your blood sugar? Yep, according to the American Diabetes Association, so long as you leave it to no more than 1-2 cocktails a day, alcohol may be able to lower your A1C levels. Pretty cool, right?
CON: It’s a Carcinogen
GiphyAlcohol is a carcinogen. The reason why this should somewhat alarm you is because carcinogens are things (like tobacco, UV rays, processed meats, etc.) that can increase your chances of being diagnosed with cancer (especially mouth, throat, esophagus, stomach and breast cancer). There are various ways this happens including the fact that alcohol, specifically, can hinder your body from breaking down certain nutrients, it can cause your estrogen levels to spike and alcohol can also cause certain toxins to damage your DNA and certain bodily proteins over time.
PRO: Cultivates Euphoric Feelings
GiphyIf you find yourself feeling more euphoric while you’re enjoying a drink, it’s not all up in your head. Although, for the more part, alcohol is considered to be a depressant, when consumed in small amounts, it can provide a stimulant effect. This happens due to the fact that when you first start to consume alcohol, it causes the production of the feel-good hormone known as dopamine to increase — and since dopamine makes us all feel more relaxed and confident while heightening our senses of pleasure too…well, there you have it.
CON: May Increase Anxiety/Depression
GiphyAs they say, “what goes up, most come down” at some point — and that is what you have to be careful of when it comes to alcohol consumption. For instance, when you drink alcohol, although it tends to initially cause your dopamine levels to uptick, because it is a temporary bodily response, sometimes the dips are lower than the rises…and that is when anxiety starts to kick in. A similar point is made with depression because oftentimes, people with depression-related symptoms, will use alcohol as a way to deflect from what’s really going on with them — and that can make them feel even worse than ever once the buzz of alcohol starts to wear off.
PRO: Has Some Heart-Related Benefits
GiphyWhen it comes to your heart, there are interesting findings surrounding its relationship to alcohol. For instance, some research states that, so long as the consumption is moderate, alcohol can actually help to increase the good cholesterol in your system while also breaking down proteins that can potentially lead to blood clots; both of these factors alone can reduce your chances of dying from heart disease.
CON: Packs on Pounds
GiphyIt’s no secret that alcohol tends to contain quite a few calories. That’s why, it’s not uncommon for people who’ve lost weight to mention “I’ve stopped drinking” as one of the causes for the shed pounds. That’s not to say that there aren’t some alcoholic beverages that have less calories than others including vodka (133 calories per serving), white wine (148 calories per serving) and tequila (99 calories per shot). Just keep in mind that the more you drink, the more calories get into your system and the more weight you stand to gain.
PRO: Lowers Inhibitions
GiphyAlthough you really should only be uninhibited around people who you absolutely trust, if that person is your partner and you’re looking to have a pretty — eh hem — active evening, alcohol can certainly help to make that happen. The science of it all is the prefrontal cortex of your brain is what regulates your inhibitions and levels of self-control. Meanwhile, alcohol suppresses your inhibitions which can cause you to be more spontaneous and open to trying things that you might not immediately do if you were sober. And with the right individual, that can be sexually beneficial (emphasis on “right person”).
CON: Makes It Harder to Orgasm
GiphyOn the other hand, as odd as it may seem (in light of what I just said), if you have too much alcohol in your system, it could make climaxing difficult. That’s because orgasms happen, in part, due to your nervous system being stimulated — and since alcohol is technically a depressant…well, it could reduce nerve sensitivity (especially as far as your clitoris goes) for you while making it challenging for your partner to remain erect or have consistent stamina. And yeah, that sucks.
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‘Tis the season. And with that, if some wassails or hot buttered rums are in your immediate future — hey, don’t let me stop you — not even a lil’ bit.
All I’m saying is now that you know what alcoholic drinks have to offer (both ways), you can know exactly how to incorporate them into your holiday plans. Enjoy!
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