
I've often thought about how I would go about a threesome, how I'd go about setting boundaries for myself and ensuring that it wasn't some socialized desire I took to meet my "freak" quota for my man (we all know one). Would I even be willing to incorporate a threesome into my relationship? As a single person looking in, I decided I'd rather be the third to another couple and leave the potential for messiness in their bedroom. But as a sex educator, the reality is that it can be done, but a threesome requires communication and healthy boundary-setting to ensure that things can be tucked away with a neat little ribbon afterwards.
For some, the boundary is simply: "The third can never be someone who we'd invite to the wedding." Either way, specificity is key and in this day and age, the possibilities are infinite. Couples and singles are seeking out a third partner through apps like Thrinder, swingers clubs, at random, or in the age-old direct message.
For the expansion of your mind, body, and soul, it's important to know that a threesome has the ability to be diverse. Despite the sexism we learned around MMF threesomes, it is in fact that and not a train. And we should reject the idea that a threesome ONLY ever occurs when it's FFM because...you guessed it...that's dated, patriarchal, sex-negative language.
It encompasses voyeurism (you'll see) and/or the use of accessories such as strap-ons and vibrators. It takes place inside throuples but also with a group of singles. Threesomes are whatever you make them...except foursomes (that's just group sex, point blank). They can be sexy, they can be awkward, spontaneous or premeditated. Just like sex with an indiviudal, you might be more comfortable in one scenario than another.
But, let's get into it. Here are 8 threesome stories featuring people on what threesomes are really like through their own experiences.
1.Watch me watch you...
"My boyfriend and I have a semi-open relationship. To be honest, I don't know exactly how to label it because I'm not into labels and everything (to me) is fluid, based off of impulse and how we feel at the time. I've always been interested in group sex/threesomes, mostly two men and me, and I made this clear to my boyfriend early in our relationship, however never was comfortable with acting on it [and I] didn't know how down he would be. Anyway, I'm very up and down sexually.
"There are times where I'm asexual, and then there's times when I'm hypersexual and can't stop thinking about sex and prefer 'riskier' behavior. It's supposedly tied to the fact that I have BPD, as suggested by my previous therapist. Well, when I was at the height of my adderall addiction, I was extremely hypersexual, unfortunately to the point I would fuck random niggas behind [my boyfriend's] back. (Yes, my boyfriend and I were OK with fucking other people, BUT we didn't officially talk about it so technically I was cheating.)
"One day, he found out, because I'm not one to hide shit well. He was extremely angry, as he should have been, but eventually he forgave me and then began to want to incorporate my desires into our sex life. We would invite people over, and I'd f*ck them and he'd watch. So basically, he never participated in the threesome, but he'd watch/tape; or he would not be there, and request that whoever is f*cking me would tape it all and then I would send it to him."
"I say all this to say... I feel like sometimes people don't talk about the uncomfortable TRUTHS about this lifestyle. In my case, it began to be an obsession. It also stopped being something that was on 'a whim'. He [my partner] started constantly asking me if I was talking to someone (to initiate sex) and asking me details of what I was talking about and asking me about times/days, all that kind of shit.
"To incorporate him in the mix, it started being overwhelming and like a second job at that point. And I think it was mostly because he ultimately wasn't completely on board with me doing this with him, but he was interested in the thought of voyeurism/threesomes/group sex but just not me doing it. Anyway, long story short, we don't do that anymore. And that was my decision, not his."
2.Tonight's the night...
"It was with a hetero couple I dated. I met them while teaching their son but they didn't pursue anything until after I had stopped teaching him. But I knew they had been attracted to me for some time. We were hanging out casually, perhaps that was the time I was taking to get comfortable and warm up. Finally, in February we all went back to their place.
"I was ready and in the mood. I said we having sex tonight. We started with some p*ssy licking. I asked each of them to take turns while I'd close my eyes and guess who was performing at a given time."
"After, I found myself sitting on his face while she rode her husband. After that, I gave her some good head and made her jizz in my mouth. I recall feeling excited, slutty (in a good way), accomplished, stimulated."
3.Almost doesn't count...
"I basically auditioned. I was sought after. She wanted a threesome, she started talking to me on her own. Then, we met up for dinner and took it from there. But I really didn't find her boyfriend attractive. Then they started talking about 'girlfriend' business, but I didn't like him so we made an attempt and the first time she got mad because he was touching me, so I Ieft.
"Then, shortly after, they broke up and she and I started messing around. That was great. I was nervous for the threesome activity though, [it's] not really my style, and no I would never do it again (laughs). Maybe with two girls."
4.It's instinct, I guess...
"First off, I'll say I'm a 'compersive' person, meaning I get pleasure out of my partner receiving pleasure. The prospect of a threesome came up after one of my female friends asked me about it, as she was attracted to us both. I set her and my partner up on a date without me, so they could see if they vibed. Apparently, it was a good time, but nothing ever really panned out from that. Then when we were out of town out drinking with some old friends, I asked if she would be down for a threesome with one of my friends, who I know, but isn't too close to me. He's also a nigga I know that's down for almost anything, plus he's discrete, which made him a good candidate.
"Me and him went outside the club to smoke a blunt in the car and I asked him if he would be down. [Though] my partner gets a lot of attention and I knew he would be down, he first responded like, 'Why me?' and I told him to just consider himself lucky. He was like, 'Aight sign me up, imma stop asking questions' and laughed. I told him to meet us at the hotel later. When my partner and I got back to the hotel and started getting ready for bed, I made sure she stayed up and mentioned that one of my homies would be coming over.
"When he got there, we thought it was a good idea to start rolling up. I could tell he had never been in a threesome before. Anxiety was in the air. So before the weed came out, I started making out with my partner, then I said to her, 'You should go show my homie some love too' and I directed her towards him and they started making out. She had on a little short nightgown and I put my hand up her gown while she was making out with him."
"He was still nervous (and had trouble getting hard, understandably), and I could see her getting anxious too so I ate her out, while she started giving him head (he was semi at this point). Then I turned her around and gave her some aggressive backshots until she came a few times while giving him head, and he started to choke her. She asked me if I told him she liked being choked, which she does, and I actually didn't. It was instinct, I guess.
"Anyway at this point everybody was on 10 and I backed away to let him put a condom on so they could fuck too. She's submissive, and says things like 'yes please,' which he finds hot. I recorded a bit, they both came, then he left. After he left, we fucked again which was probably the best sex of the night tbh, and went to bed. She was GLOWING the next day, and we debriefed over breakfast. The next two weeks she was hornier than ever, throwing the pussy at me even if I just looked at her. I think she really felt confident in herself as a sexual being and her sex drive was on another level for a couple weeks. I really feel like it was a win-win-win overall."
5.I wanna play...
"I went to the swingers club with the intent of watching, but it's hard to be hard-wired for horny and not want to partake. I think I also planned on watching because I didn't anticipate any Black people being there and white people weren't going to get me off. My curiosity got the best of me when the Black couple I had been keeping tabs on while they exchanged oral had suddenly left the room. True to my Sag, my ass went to explore the situation. I found them with the one other Black couple making out on the couches.
"They gave me permission to join verbally and as a sign of good faith she gave his dick some room to breathe so I could show them I was serious. We moved to a private room where she and I took turns eating one another out, and giving him head."
"Soon after, we had sex but not for long because I panicked, through my clothes on, and dipped out. Unfortunately, I was forced to bump into them for the rest of the night in the club. I would definitely do it again but I would put slightly more thought into it. More intention."
6.An invitation...
"Back in undergrad, one of my closest friends also happened to be my roommate. She was going through a bad breakup and after a night of my then-boyfriend and I listening to her whine about it, I randomly said, 'We're going to have sex now. You're welcome to join. That may help get your mind off of things.' With very little hesitation, she asked for 30 minutes to clean herself up (shave and whatnot) and not too long after that we all fucked.
"Having sex with my best friend and my boyfriend for my first threesome was great. Knowing that I trusted them and we all were very familiar with one another definitely made us all more comfortable. I do think my boyfriend was having a mental conflict. He wasn't able to keep a hard on with my best friend. After the threesome was over, he had to finish in our room with me. The days following were pretty normal. We laughed about it, but there were no awkward moments."
7.Fifty shades of submission...
"There's lots of things that aren't very sensual about my sexual experiences, especially when it has to do with swinger lifestyle stuff. I've been a part of the swinger lifestyle for about four to five years and started in Baltimore. When I moved back to Detroit, I never really sought it out because it was too close to home, work, etc. Post-breakup, I went to a lifestyle party in February with a friend. Initially, I was like, 'I really don't wanna do this but you know I'm really f*cking horny and I really wanna have a community dynamic of, not only being f*cked but seeing people f*ck.' So I went.
"The host, whose name was Vick, and there was a guy named X, as well -- while I was there, I ended up f*cking like three guys [and] I played with a girl. Although I wanted to f*ck X, I didn't for whatever reason but I did end up f*cking Vick. Fast forward, not too long ago this past fall, Vick is like, 'Come over, I really wanna f*ck you' and I'm like whatever because I know he's going to slut me out. He has a Dom nature.
"Like I'm going to feel like I can serve and please him, which gives me my release. He also has this house where he lives with guys which also turns me on knowing that others can hear me getting f*cks, I don't know, just another kink of mine. And so while I'm f*cking him, I end up biting my fingers, sucking on my fingers, sucking on his fingers. Basically indicating that I need another dick. I'm this horny, I wanna please, I want to be slutted out. But I'm not going to shy away from it, I needed to be myself and I needed a release."
"So Vick is like, 'OK, do you trust me to bring someone over?' Minutes later, X walks in! Obviously, I'm excited. He also has a Dom nature about him. At this point, I'm in heaven. I'm sucking X's dick. But I'm also on this tip where not only do I want to be pleased but I also want to see the manifestation of me giving and me serving and making sure I get the ultimate slut/sub trophy and that's cum, right? So I'm sucking him off, letting him f*ck. He's cumming on my face and Vick is watching like, 'Good girl, keep going. Please him like you please, daddy.' We're going back and forth and eventually Vick is like, 'You need to bend over so I can take your ass.' And I wanted it! I wanted all of my holes filled that day.
"And that ended up happening. X ended up laying back and Vick was like, 'You're going to try DP (double penetration) for us.' It was again a very primitive, raw experience around being a slut and wanting to get all of my holes blown out, wanting both of these men to please me and knowing that they both have this Dom, honestly, hood persona that I adore. Which is opposite of how people see me but this is what turns me on. I was gone in a beautiful way. I enjoyed every minute of it."
8.The perfect stranger...
"This one is pretty wild. I was at a friend's bar (he was the bar manager) and there was a guy in there visiting from New York for business. We were discussing everything he had done so far since he was there and he said he hadn't done much! My other friend had met me at the bar (we usually went every Monday to get drunk for free and eat). About two hours had passed and we had been chatting it up with the guy but my friend had to go home because he had work in the morning. Me and the visitor kept chatting it up and he told me his hotel wasn't far and he wanted to go out tonight because it was his last night in ATL.
"We get to this other popular bar, both drunk off our asses and we go to the bathroom together (this bar is one of those bars where you have to go to the bathroom with your friends or they may get lost, if you know what I mean). The next thing I know me and the guy are making out in the bathroom! He invited me to his hotel but I told him I needed to go home to change first. In actuality, I was going to pick up my roommate/the other friend from the bar earlier. I told the guy that my friend likes to watch and he was TOTALLY DOWN! I run in the house to wake up my friend and give him the tea, he was WITH IT!
"So we go back to the guys' hotel and me and the guy are doing oral while my friend went to use the bathroom. Next thing I know, I'm calling for my friend to come out of the bathroom, but before he could, me and the visitor went to the bathroom and I started giving oral to my friend! We made our way to the bed and had our way! The guy was vers so he f*cked me and my friend f*cked him. It was quite the experience! We end up staying the night at the guy's hotel. We had to come up with an escape plan to leave the guy's hotel before he asked for a ride to the airport. So I 'went to get the car' from valet, and texted my friend to come down, but to say he'd be back! Never talked to that guy again."
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Because We Are Still IT, Girl: It Girl 100 Returns
Last year, when our xoNecole team dropped our inaugural It Girl 100 honoree list, the world felt, ahem, a bit brighter.
It was March 2024, and we still had a Black woman as the Vice President of the United States. DEI rollbacks weren’t being tossed around like confetti. And more than 300,000 Black women were still gainfully employed in the workforce.
Though that was just nineteen months ago, things were different. Perhaps the world then felt more receptive to our light as Black women.
At the time, we launched It Girl 100 to spotlight the huge motion we were making as dope, GenZennial Black women leaving our mark on culture. The girls were on the rise, flourishing, drinking their water, minding their business, leading companies, and learning to do it all softly, in rest. We wanted to celebrate that momentum—because we love that for us.
So, we handpicked one hundred It Girls who embody that palpable It Factor moving through us as young Black women, the kind of motion lighting up the world both IRL and across the internet.
It Girl 100 became xoNecole’s most successful program, with the hashtag organically reaching more than forty million impressions on Instagram in just twenty-four hours. Yes, it caught on like wildfire because we celebrated some of the most brilliant and influential GenZennial women of color setting trends and shaping culture. But more than that, it resonated because the women we celebrated felt seen.
Many were already known in their industries for keeping this generation fly and lit, but rarely received recognition or flowers. It Girl 100 became a safe space to be uplifted, and for us as Black women to bask in what felt like an era of our brilliance, beauty, and boundless influence on full display.
And then, almost overnight, it was as if the rug was pulled from under us as Black women, as the It Girls of the world.
Our much-needed, much-deserved season of ease and soft living quickly metamorphosed into a time of self-preservation and survival. Our motion and economic progression seemed strategically slowed, our light under siege.
The air feels heavier now. The headlines colder. Our Black girl magic is being picked apart and politicized for simply existing.
With that climate shift, as we prepare to launch our second annual It Girl 100 honoree list, our team has had to dig deep on the purpose and intention behind this year’s list. Knowing the spirit of It Girl 100 is about motion, sauce, strides, and progression, how do we celebrate amid uncertainty and collective grief when the juice feels like it is being squeezed out of us?
As we wrestled with that question, we were reminded that this tension isn’t new. Black women have always had to find joy in the midst of struggle, to create light even in the darkest corners. We have carried the weight of scrutiny for generations, expected to be strong, to serve, to smile through the sting. But this moment feels different. It feels deeply personal.
We are living at the intersection of liberation and backlash. We are learning to take off our capes, to say no when we are tired, to embrace softness without apology.
And somehow, the world has found new ways to punish us for it.

In lifestyle, women like Kayla Nicole and Ayesha Curry have been ridiculed for daring to choose themselves. Tracee Ellis Ross was labeled bitter for speaking her truth about love. Meghan Markle, still, cannot breathe without critique.
In politics, Kamala Harris, Letitia James, and Jasmine Crockett are dragged through the mud for standing tall in rooms not built for them.
In sports, Angel Reese, Coco Gauff, and Taylor Townsend have been reminded that even excellence will not shield you from racism or judgment.

In business, visionaries like Diarrha N’Diaye-Mbaye and Melissa Butler are fighting to keep their dreams alive in an economy that too often forgets us first.
Even our icons, Beyoncé, Serena, and SZA, have faced criticism simply for evolving beyond the boxes society tried to keep them in.
From everyday women to cultural phenoms, the pattern is the same. Our light is being tested.

And yet, somehow, through it all, we are still showing up as that girl, and that deserves to be celebrated.
Because while the world debates our worth, we keep raising our value. And that proof is all around us.
This year alone, Naomi Osaka returned from motherhood and mental health challenges to reach the semifinals of the US Open. A’ja Wilson claimed another MVP, reminding us that beauty and dominance can coexist. Brandy and Monica are snatching our edges on tour. Kahlana Barfield Brown sold out her new line in the face of a retailer that had been canceled. And Melissa Butler’s company, The Lip Bar, is projecting a forty percent surge in sales.

We are no longer defining strength by how much pain we can endure. We are defining it by the unbreakable light we continue to radiate.
We are the women walking our daily steps and also continuing to run solid businesses. We are growing in love, taking solo trips, laughing until it hurts, raising babies and ideas, drinking our green juice, and praying our peace back into existence.
We are rediscovering the joy of rest and realizing that softness is not weakness, it is strategy.
And through it all, we continue to lift one another. Emma Grede is creating seats at the table. Valeisha Butterfield has started a fund for jobless Black women. Arian Simone is leading in media with fearless conviction. We are pouring into each other in ways the world rarely sees but always feels.

So yes, we are in the midst of societal warfare. Yes, we are being tested. Yes, we are facing economic strain, political targeting, and public scrutiny. But even war cannot dim a light that is divinely ours.
And we are still shining.
And we are still softening.
And we are still creating.
And we are still It.

That is the quiet magic of Black womanhood, our ability to hold both truth and triumph in the same breath, to say yes, and to life’s contradictions.
It is no coincidence that this year, as SheaMoisture embraces the message “Yes, And,” they stand beside us as partners in celebrating this class of It Girls. Because that phrase, those two simple words, capture the very essence of this moment.
Yes, we are tired. And we are still rising.
Yes, we are questioned. And we are the answer.
Yes, we are bruised. And we are still beautiful.

This year’s It Girl 100 is more than a list. It is a love letter to every Black woman who dares to live out loud in a world that would rather she whisper. This year’s class is living proof of “Yes, And,” women who are finding ways to thrive and to heal, to build and to rest, to lead and to love, all at once.
It is proof that our joy is not naive, our success not accidental. It is the reminder that our light has never needed permission.
So without further ado, we celebrate the It Girl 100 Class of 2025–2026.
We celebrate the millions of us who keep doing it with grace, grit, and glory.
Because despite it all, we still shine.
Because we are still her.
Because we are still IT, girl.
Meet all 100 women shaping culture in the It Girl 100 Class of 2025. View the complete list of honorees here.
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How Les Alfred & Kayla Greaves Built Their "It Girl" Brands With Intention
It’s not always easy being an “It Girl,” but Les Alfred, host of She’s So Lucky podcast, and Kayla Greaves, beauty expert, reporter and consultant, never promised it would be. Instead, the two creators are forging their own paths based on resilience. Les originally launched her podcast, formerly Balanced Black Girl, from her bedroom in Seattle after creating fitness content elsewhere online.
Last year, she left her corporate job to scale the Dear Media-hosted series, which she rebranded earlier this year. Meanwhile, Kayla has worked as a journalist and editor, including for InStyle as Executive Beauty Editor. In 2023, she left the company to focus on consulting, hosting and speaking engagements.
Despite launching media careers from different pathways, the two New York-based women have forged a friendship where they can discuss their ambitions and challenges.
Both women are part of xoNecole’s It Girl 100 Class of 2025, recognized in the Viral Voices category for the impact they’ve made through storytelling, creativity, and authenticity. Together, they represent what it means to build an "It Girl" brand with integrity and depth. In the spirit of SheaMoisture’s "Yes, And" ethos, Les and Kayla embody the freedom to be multi-layered as women evolving boldly into every version of themselves.
This conversation has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity
On Forging Their Own Paths
Les Alfred: Being a Jane of all trades is incredibly challenging. And one of the challenges I've faced is that the scope of what podcasters now need to do has increased so much. When I first interviewed you in 2019, I was still very new at it, but I remember being on a Skype call with you from my bedroom in Seattle. That was how I ran the show. And that was good enough. That is absolutely not good enough these days. The scope and the quality keeps increasing, but the resources that you have don't necessarily increase in order to remain competitive.
I get asked so many questions from people who want to get into podcasts and they want to get started. Most of the time, I'm just like, 'I don't have tips for you.' Because, one, I don't know what it's like to start in this current environment. Two, I know what it takes to contend and be consistent in this environment. The barrier of entry is a lot higher in terms of having something of quality than it was before.
On Balancing Ambition and Rest
Kayla Greaves: I've had to make a very clear effort to slow down and just not take on as much. Yes, you're running a business, but you're also living your life. I had one of those days yesterday. I just laid down and listened to white noise for hours because I just needed my brain to just be clear. I called a friend. I cried.
I'm starting over again today. The sun is out. It's a new day. And that's just sometimes what you have to do. You can't show up for your audience or for other people, if you can't show for yourself. I think that creativity comes from a place of living your life and having genuine experiences, and then sharing those experiences through your art.
"I had to give myself permission to let myself grow publicly in ways that I'd already done personally."

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On Evolving Through Growth and Rebranding
Les: I didn't create Balanced Black Girl until 2018, but I started blogging and creating content and doing things under the Balanced brand in 2014. I was 24 years old at the time. Now, I'm 36. The things that were important to me, the perspective that I had and the stories I wanted to tell were entirely different. I think I had to give myself permission to let myself grow publicly in ways that I'd already done personally. The show isn't really about wellness anymore. And that shift started happening a couple of years ago.
When we started expanding into more lifestyle topics, more self-help topics [and] talking about entrepreneurship, the audience responded really well. That was when the show really started to grow and take off. And that was what got so much more engagement than the episodes back in 2020 when I was doing hour-long deep dives on gut health.
Rebranding the show was something I've been thinking about for a long time. When I was finally like, 'Oh, I need to do this,' honestly, was the 2024 presidential election. I was like, these people are about to be in here acting crazy. I do not feel safe with my business name being what it is. I don't want to be targeted for any BS. We saw what they did to the Fearless Fund.
"You have to balance your integrity with your income."

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On Integrity Over Income
Kayla: I have many other interests aside from beauty. I'm growing and I'm changing as a person. I'm not the same person I was when I started at InStyle in 2019 before the pandemic rocked everybody's world. I don't think reviewing every single lipstick that comes out is exciting or interesting, because everybody does it now, and everybody feels like they're qualified to speak on things that they're not qualified to speak on. I'm currently in that pain point of growth.
I don't think I have always been in environments where I've been encouraged to branch out on my own ideas. I finished Ina Garten’s memoir maybe a month ago. She kept repeating this quote in her book. She said, ‘What goes in early, goes in deep.’ Now that I'm on my own and I don't have the resources of a traditional media company, which is what I have become accustomed to, sometimes it's difficult for me to be like, 'Okay, just go ahead with the thing.'
I think, Les, just the other day, you reposted somebody saying that they let go of a five-figure deal and then got double the next day because it just didn't feel aligned for them. Those are the things that happen. I have to find a balance of, 'Okay, how do I keep myself afloat?' And that may mean I may not be balling out of control just yet, but I'm okay for now. I can buy myself nice things every once in a while, but you have to balance your integrity with your income.
Les: There are just certain lines that I'm not willing to cross. Especially when I created more wellness content, one of those lines was I will not promote any sort of weight loss product. All of these GLP-1s all want to advertise on my podcast. I actually have nothing against those types of products, but I don't ever want someone to look at what I'm putting into the world and think that I'm saying that they need to feel a certain way about their bodies.
Even if the money is great, that's not for me to say, and that's not the type of message that I want to put out here. Or, I had another kind of brand deal come through that would have required me to divulge things about my personal life that I just don't really want my audience knowing about me, and bringing them along on journeys that I just find personal and I want to keep offline. I don’t want to be known for dragging my mess all over the internet for a buck.
I don't want to be known for being an influencer. I would love to be 1,000% in on my podcast, scale it, have it grow to be a media empire where I'm producing and putting out other bodies of work. For now, until that other side of the business really picks up and gets to the point where I want it to be, I kind of need to play the influencer game a little bit to live in this expensive city. But I'm gonna do it on my terms. It's a constant compromise that I'm coming to with myself.
"You can never make a big vision come to fruition if you're sitting and you're waiting for somebody else to tell you exactly what to do."

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On Mutual Admiration and Friendship
Les: Something that I really admire about you in having known you for the past couple of years is you don't wait for a roadmap. You jump in, you roll up your sleeves, and you do it. You can never make a big vision come to fruition if you're sitting and you're waiting for somebody else to tell you exactly what to do.
Kayla: Well, first of all, I want to say thank you for saying that, because that means so much to me, and it's very affirming. That's exactly how I feel about you. I remember, even at your first live show, you're like, ‘Oh my god, I'm so stressed. I don't know what I'm doing.’ And, the shit sold out. And, you know, and now, like, you see the growth of the podcast. And you have nearly 61,000 subscribers on YouTube. I just checked recently.
I talk a lot about people that really just need to not say anything on the internet, because it's so frustrating as somebody who grew up as a traditional journalist. You want people to fact check and ask thoughtful questions and have good conversations. I've never said that about you. I've always loved your podcast. And I've sent a lot of your episodes to friends when they're going through specific things that you're talking about.
This season has been a little bit slower to me, so you've been a constant source of inspiration, and it's just been such a pleasure to see your podcast grow despite the challenges you've had. I know it's not easy, but you continue to grow and continue to push through, and I really admire that as somebody who sat and cried yesterday and listened to white noise.
And this is why I tell you all the time, you really do inspire me. I love you a lot.
Les: Oh my gosh, I love you a lot. I'm so glad that the podcast brought us together.
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