
SZA On Drew Barrymore’s Influence: 'You Made Me Feel Seen My Entire Life'

With her breakout role in the comedy One of Them Days alongside Keke Palmer, SZA has officially entered her acting era with a bang. The comedy is already being heralded as a contender for one of the greatest buddy comedies of all time, and the year legit just started.
While the press tour surrounding the release of the film is filled with many buzz-worthy moments from SZA, Keke, and Issa Rae, it's SZA’s appearance on The Drew Barrymore Show that feels like a true headline moment. Especially when you think about all the ways SZA's journey has been inspired by the veteran actress-turned-talk show host.
And yes, we're talking about Drew Barrymore.
SZA and Drew Barrymore share a bond that transcends time and entertainment genres, one rooted in vulnerability and seeing the light in each other from seemingly opposite worlds. For SZA, Drew has been an endless source of inspiration, one she immortalized in the track “Drew Barrymore” on her 2017 Ctrl album. But what stood out during this talk show moment wasn’t just the song’s backstory, it was the emotional exchange that reminded us how cathartic it is to feel seen.
“It was inspired by you, it wasn’t just the title. The energy that you carry. Even my outfit is inspired by the way you made me feel my entire life. The carefree, the understanding,” SZA told Drew during the sit-down. She went on to share just how impactful Drew had been on her as a young Black girl who struggled to find relatable examples on TV:
“I wrote you this letter that I never sent you, but it talked about how, when you’re younger, and you’re a Black woman, there’s not a lot of examples all the time. One of the few lovely white women that I looked up to so much on television was you, because you were so yourself," she shared in the interview, "You were quirky. Your smile wasn’t perfect. I have a slight speech impediment, and people laugh all the time, like, ‘What is SZA saying?’ And it’s a running joke. But I love the way you talk and just all the you-ness of you — your laugh, even in the movies and in real life.”
For Drew, this revelation was humbling and heartfelt. Reflecting on SZA’s words, she said later, “I think maybe what you picked up when you were young, ’cause it’s no different now, is this lack of assumption. We are looking for permission to be ourselves. We are looking for someone to tell us it will be okay to be exactly who we are.”
This isn’t the first time SZA has expressed admiration for Drew’s impact. In an interview with Vulture, she described how Drew’s iconic role as Josie Gellar, nicknamed “Josie Grossie” in Never Been Kissed resonated deeply with her: “That’s my experience. I was hella outcast in school. I was watching it like, ‘Yes! Win for all of us!’” The character’s imperfections and awkward charm “made me feel better about being awkward and having crooked teeth and just being myself,” she told USA Today.
The 2017 music video for “Drew Barrymore” even included a cameo from Drew herself. But the January 2025 talk show appearance marked the first time they openly discussed together how the actress unknowingly inspired the track. For Drew, hearing how her authenticity impacted SZA brought things full circle: her life and career gave SZA the courage to be herself, while SZA’s music gave Drew the reminder that her own vulnerability had ripple effects she never anticipated.
SZA’s artistry has always been rooted in connection, and this moment highlighted the beauty of her gifts. Just as Drew once made her feel seen, SZA’s music has become a beacon for fans worldwide who recognize their own truths in her vulnerability.
This interaction serves as proof that authenticity transcends, uniting women from different walks of life through shared understanding and experiences. Drew Barrymore helped SZA feel seen as a young Black girl navigating her identity. Now, SZA’s music has returned that gift, helping Drew and all of us who listen see ourselves in ways where we see our wounds as wisdom and our you-ness and insecurities as things of beauty.
Speaking of music, SZA dropped SOS Deluxe: LANA last December and is gearing up for the Grand National Tour alongside longtime collaborator Kendrick Lamar this year. But that’s not all. In fact, the “30 For 30” vocalist also hinted on X that she might be looking to dabble in children’s music. “To fulfill my last 2 album requirements I think I just wanna make peaceful children’s music n get outta here. Then go be a farmer n donate the produce to underserved communities,” she wrote.
One thing about SZA is she’s always going to do what makes sense to her as a creative. And as SZA fans, we pledge to always be there to eat it up.
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'Sistas' Star Skyh Black On The Power Of Hypnotherapy & Emotional Vulnerability For Men
In this insightful episode of the xoMAN podcast, host Kiara Walker talked with Sistas star Skyh Black, as he opened up about his journey of emotional growth, resilience, and self-discovery. The episode touches on emotional availability, self-worth, masculinity, and the importance of therapy in overcoming personal struggles.
Skyh Black on Emotional Availability & Love
On Emotional Availability & Vulnerability
“My wife and I wouldn't be where we are today if both of us weren't emotionally available,” he shared about his wife and Sistas co-star KJ Smith, highlighting the value of vulnerability and emotional openness in a relationship. His approach to masculinity stands in contrast to the traditional, stoic ideals. Skyh is not afraid to embrace softness as part of his emotional expression.
On Overcoming Self-Doubt & Worthiness Issues
Skyh reflected on the self-doubt and worthiness issues that he struggled with, especially early in his career. He opens up about his time in Los Angeles, living what he calls the “LA struggle story”—in a one-bedroom with three roommates—and being homeless three times over the span of 16 years. “I always had this self-sabotaging thought process,” Skyh said. “For me, I feel therapy is essential, period. I have a regular therapist and I go to a hypnotherapist.”
How Therapy Helped Him Heal From Self-Doubt
On Hypnotherapy & Empowering Self-Acceptance
Skyh’s journey is a testament to the power of tapping into self-development despite life’s struggles and being open to growth. “I had to submit to the fact that God was doing good in my life, and that I'm worthy of it. I had a worthiness issue and I did not realize that. So, that’s what the hypnotherapy did. It brought me back to the core. What is wrong so that I can fix it?”
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How A Group Chat Became A Game-Changer For Empowering Black Professionals In Sports
In 2016, Shaina Wiel started a simple group chat with friends and colleagues in the New York sports industry. What began as a space for professionals of color in sports to share resources and opportunities blossomed into the Minorities in Sports Business Network, a thriving community of more than 1,000 members and a full-fledged company shaping the future of sports business.
Shaina, who has held roles at companies including ESPN and the NBA and has taught strategic sports marketing at esteemed institutions like Georgetown University, officially launched the network as a business in 2019. Since then, it’s hosted high-impact events like the Toast to Black Sports luncheon during Super Bowl weekend and built student chapters at both HBCUs and PWIs to pipeline underrepresented talent into the industry.
She shared with xoNecole more on the early days of launch, the turning point that made her realize she had a platform with real influence, and what keeps her going. With 17 years of experience across agencies, teams, and networks, Shaina is proof that grassroots efforts can turn into transformative change—especially when backed by passion, vision, and community.
xoNecole: How did the Minorities In Sports Business Network come to life?
Shaina Wiel: So, I just started the group chat and added a few of my friends who work in the industry as well. We were all kind of in New York at the same time working in the sports space… Very quickly over the next few years, the chat grew to over 800 individuals within the chat. Then, we had over 1000 individuals.
xoN: What was your ‘aha’ moment to expand?
SW: I noticed a bunch of employees from the Big Four leagues— NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB— within my group chat had all started posting roles. And when I asked, 'What is going on? Why are there so many posting jobs within the group chat?' I was told that HR had sent a note to their Black Employee Resource Group and had told them they had heard about this group chat.
That's when I realized, ‘Okay, this is more than, you know, my little friend group chat. Let's see if we can turn this into an actual business. And then in summer, 2019 I decided to do this full time.
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xoN: What was the transition like growing the group chat into a full platform offering membership perks like access to job listings, networking opportunities and more?
SW: I was working at an agency, and the agency had lost their account. It was the account that I was working on. So they were like, you know, we can try to find another or we can separate. I decided to leave. And then, as we know, COVID happened, which actually was a blessing in disguise.
I was able to really focus on building the vision with this group chat and turning it into an actual company, seeing what works, seeing things from an events and a relationship standpoint, in terms of like, how we were interacting with different partners from different companies, and actually turning that into something substantial that could last.
xoN: Speaking of events, talk more about what inspired the Toast to Black Sports event you held earlier this year during the Super Bowl. Why is it important?
SW: This was the second year. There are so many dope people of color, specifically Black people, who work in this industry who are just doing the work behind the scenes. They’re not getting their flowers. I took it upon myself to say, I want to celebrate you. We’ve honored Kimberly Fields, Esq. of the NFL, Kevin Warren, CEO of the Chicago Bears, sports executive Jason Wright, sports and entertainment vet Carmen Green-Wilson, and NFL coach Jennifer King—all of whom have made major contributions to the industry.
xoN: What do you enjoy most about your role today?
SW: I think the work that I enjoy the most, honestly, is with our college students. We have 12 chapters across different colleges and universities. We help eliminate some of the barriers a lot of us had coming out of college. What I love seeing is that we have students who are now looking at roles they never even thought of.
xoN: What’s a bit of career advice for women breaking into the sports industry?
SW: I would say, build relationships. That’s really it: Build authentic relationships. Make sure it's a give and take and that you're supporting other people because once you're building those relationships, then it's a lot easier to either get into a space or to have those conversations when you want to do something.
And always be willing and ready to do the work.
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