Sisters Danica, 33, and Devynn Hart, 26, along with their cousin Trea Swindle, 34, have taken their Mississippi roots—growing up in a faith-filled home of ministers—and mixed it with a Louisiana flair to win hearts in country music. Singing professionally since 2018 but together since childhood, they’ve turned their love for music into a fulfilling career that’s a family adventure.
The band was inducted into Country Music TV’s (CMT) “Next Women of Country,” joining the ranks of other amazing up-and-comers in the genre, and they’ve gone global, earning the honor of “International Group of the Year” and landing “International Song of the Year” in Scotland for their take on the classic “Jolene” song made famous by country icon Dolly Parton (and even more infamous by Queen Bey).
Their three-part harmony and soulful swag went viral when they wowed TV audiences and judges alike on America’s Got Talent in 2022, with the same song, “You Can Have Him Jolene,” proving to many that they’re in the industry to stay.
xoNecole caught up with the trio, taking a break to chat while on tour and gearing up for their upcoming Christmas album, to talk about faith, food, and longevity in country music and beyond:
xoNecole: You are a talented group of family members. What attracted you to choose the genre of country music?
Trea Swindle: We grew up in Poplarville, Mississippi, so country music was, kind of, just a way of life, and aside from that, growing up, it really didn’t matter where you were. You were going to hear country music all day, every day, from the classrooms to the grocery stores, to run on the bus, just anywhere you go. It was the one genre of music that really resonated with the way that we live.
xoN: Yeah, people think that Black people and country music is something new, but it’s always been common. I grew up between Virginia and New York, hearing and loving country music since childhood. So, you all had a major early career-boosting moment on 'America's Got Talent.' What was the one major takeaway from that experience from each of you when it comes to growth and your personal experience at that time?
Devynn Hart: I believe that one of the main things that we took away from AGT, that entire experience, was just learning to trust our gut and going with our heart. When we initially went to AGT for auditions, we didn't even plan to sing “You Can Have Him Jolene.” We initially had “Nine To Five” set up. It was right until the very last moment that we were like, ‘You know what, if we're gonna do this, let's go with the song that is ours, and let's take a chance on ourselves.’ That was such a big thing for us. And I think from there moving forward. We've just kind of taken that same idea of learning to trust our gut moving forward.
Danica Hart: We’d been playing that song for a year in Nashville before we got to AGT. And, you know, we'd been trying to get people to hear it. We were trying to pitch it. The thing that resonated with us is that, from that very moment, we thought that this should be a song to say, after 30 years, that you can just have him, Jolene. You can have him.
This song was so special to us. And, like, we were really willing to stand 10 toes down, so, [in] the moment, we knew that this was special, and it would be special if we performed it. We were going to have to take a chance on ourselves. And if we failed— if the judges hated it—at least it was our song and we could walk away with the information that we had.
"The thing that resonated with us is that, from that very moment, we thought that this should be a song to say, after 30 years, that you can just have him, Jolene. You can have him."
xoN: Well, it was a good decision because it was definitely a hit. Now, what's the best advice that you've gotten about succeeding in the business, now that you all are really picking up speed and you know, have been in the industry?
Trea: Darius Rucker (multiplatinum singer-songwriter of Hootie & the Blowfish fame) reached out to us even before AGT— before a lot of people knew who we were. He’s reminded us to, one, stay true to ourselves and to not be afraid to take chances and be open to new opportunities— to be confident in yourself enough to know when to say no to an opportunity that's not right to you. And so it's all about authenticity. And it's all about you know, what's going to serve you and your career.
Danica: Yeah, he tells us the importance of finding the right team, finding the people who fight for you, finding the people who work hard for you. Sometimes it's saying no to team members. It [could be] people who you like but they may not work hard for you.
And so it's finding the people who are knowledgeable about the way that you're doing it, you know, as independent artists. Having the right team is important. We don't have a very big team, but we've got we've got people who work hard for us.
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xoN: Oh, yes. And that was evident because your team reached out to us when they saw you all were mentioned in a roundup we ran. That meant a lot. Speaking of the best advice, as Black women in country music, what is one of the biggest challenges you’ve faced early in your careers and how have you approached overcoming it?
Danica: I think the hardest thing about being Black women in the industry, the first part, is just about being women. I think that country music has seen, over the last 100 years, that if you can take a man and put him in a T-shirt and tight jeans, and put them on stage, people will buy.
You always hear about the statistics of women being played on radio and women, you know, not really having the same opportunities as men. And like I said, I think it's just done out of familiarity. They know what sells tickets and what makes money. That's the hard part and then also being Black.
[We’re] three women and [we’re] Black, you know, so I think sometimes we sit on the outskirts of the music industry only because it's not something that any of the labels have ever done. They've never signed or booked a Black female trio.
Sometimes we have to work a little extra hard to get out there, you know… trying to find those keys that unlock the doors that aren't accessible to us right away.
It’s been obstacles, but Trea has a saying where she goes, ‘We turn no to no-tivation.’ So, if they say, ‘Oh, sorry. There's not enough seats at this event or that event. And we go okay, no problem. And then we find a friend, we make a friend, and I tell you, it’s crazy how God always works things out in our favor.
xoN: Love that term, ‘no-tivation’! Now, let’s get into your pre-performance routine. What do you all do to prep before shows?
Devynn: A lot of people always think that eating before the show—they can't do it because of their nerves, but if I don't eat before a show, it is not gonna be nice. [Laughs] I gotta eat before the show.
Trea: Yes! [Laughs]
Danica: We also pray before we go on. There's something about that prayer before going out on stages that centers us. Our stage time is our ministry.
xoN: Love it! Prayer and food—a good combo. You can’t go wrong. Now, what do you all want your legacy to be in country music?
Danica: We want women and little girls to say, ‘Look, if they can do it, I can.’ People told us we were too old to be trying to make a career in music. They told me I was too big and Trea was too skinny and too bald-headed. Anything you can think about, they’ve said, yet here we are.
And so if you can get over all those obstacles, you can get over what people believe about you, and hone in to what you believe about yourself. I want to show people that it can be done and you can do good. You can be good in the world.
For more on Chapel Hart, visit their website and follow them on Instagram @chapelhartband.
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Anyway, I personally think that the less shallow folks out here may contemplate calling things “quits” or they at least distance themselves a bit from their partner (and what I’m referring to is serious relationships) due to all of the stress and strain that oftentimes comes with the holidays whether it be financial, familial, due to their tight schedules or something else.
Listen, I would hate for you and your man to miss the fun and happiness of experiencing this time of year, all because you are so overwhelmed or irritated that you can’t really enjoy it. That’s why I have a few practical tips for how to avoid allowing the typical holiday season stress from INFECTING your relationship.
Manage Your Expectations
GiphyUnmanaged expectations. If there is a main reason why the holiday season tends to be so stress-filled for so many people, I’d bet good money that this is the cause. And when you’re in a long-term relationship, expectations can manifest themselves in all sorts of cryptic and/or unexpected ways. You might have relatives who assume that you are going to be with them for Thanksgiving or Christmas when you have other plans in mind. You might be thinking that you are going to spend one amount for presents while your man is thinking something totally different. When it comes to scheduling, your signals may be crossed.
And you know what? To all of these scenarios, this is where clear and consistent communication come in. Don’t assume anything. Don’t dictate anything either. From now until New Year’s, mutually decide to check in once a week, just to make sure that you are both on the same page as it relates to the holidays and what you both are thinking will come along with it. The less blindsided you both feel, the less stressed out you will be. Trust me on this.
Set (and Keep) a Budget
GiphyOkay, so I read that last year, 36 percent of Americans incurred some type of holiday-related debt. Hmph. Last year, there was still some sense of normalcy in this country, chile, so I can only imagine what finances are gonna look like over the next several weeks. That said, since I don’t know a lot of people who don’t find being broke stressful, make sure that you and your bae set a budget and then stick to it this year — no ifs, ands or buts.
Because really, y’all — it doesn’t make sense to deplete savings and/or max out credit cards for a few days of giggles only to be damn near losing your mind because you don’t know how to make ends meet come Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Day.
And by the way, this tip doesn’t just speak to things like food and gifts; I also mean travel. If it doesn’t make a ton of sense (or cents) to be all over the place this year — DON’T BE.
Keep Matthew 5:37 at the Forefront
GiphyIf off the top of your head, you don’t know what Matthew 5:37 says, no worries, here ya go: “But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.” That verse right there? Oh, it’s a boundaries lifesaver! I say that because do you see “maybe” or “I’ll think about it” in there? Nope. LOL. It says that you should tell people “yes” or “no” and leave it at that — and that complements Anne Lamott’s quote, “’No’ is a complete sentence” impeccably well. Yeah, you’ve got to remember that anything beyond a yes or no to a request is privileged information; you don’t owe anyone details or an explanation.
Besides, if you are really honest with yourself, when someone asks you something and you give a “Umm, let me think about it” kind of reply, more times than not, you already know what your answer is going to be — so why not let you both off of the hook? Give your response. Commit to that. And let everyone (including yourself) get on with their lives and schedules.
I promise you that when it comes to those holiday parties, you are pissing more folks off by not RSVP’ing or doing so and not showing up than just saying, “Thank you but not this year” off the rip.
Remember That Your Personal Space Is Privilege Not a Right
GiphyA friend of mine recently bought a new house and invited me over to come see it. He’s a single man with no children, so as I was taking in all of the space that he had, especially as I walked through his finished basement, I joked about relatives coming to live with him. “Hell no” and “absolutely not” were pretty much his immediate responses as he went on to say that some folks even had the nerve to be offended when he told them that he had no intentions on taking DNA in.
Ain’t it wild how people think that your stuff is their right? And yes, that brings me to my next point. Your home is your sanctuary space. If you want to host folks this year — cool. If not, ALSO COOL. Please don’t let folks (family included) guilt you into how they want you to act or even into what they would do if the shoe was on the other foot. You are not them — and as one of my favorite quotes states, “If two people were exactly alike, one of them would be unnecessary.” (A man by the name Larry Dixon said that.)
Hell, my friends? They know that I am good for sending them random things that they need or even want all throughout the year. Coming over to hang out at my pace, though. Uh-uh. Chalk it up to being a card-carrying member of the ambivert club yet I like keeping my living space personal — and I sleep like a baby, each and every night, for feeling that way.
Always remember that your space, your time, your resources, your energy and shoot, yourself period (including your relationship), are all things that are your own. You get to choose how, when and why you want to share them. The holiday season is certainly no exception.
Cultivate Some “You Two Only” Traditions
GiphyIt’s not uncommon for some couples to hit me up after the holiday season to “detox.” Sometimes it’s due to the financial drama (and sometimes trauma) that they experienced. Sometimes it’s because they allowed their relatives (especially in-laws) to get more into their personal business than they should’ve. More than anything, though, it tends to be because they didn’t get enough quality time together and so ended up feeling “disconnected.”
Please don’t let that happen. Listen, I’m not even a holidays kind of woman and yet, I will absolutely sit myself down with some hot chocolate and chocolate chip cookies to enjoy a Hallmark holiday film or two. Aside from the fact that most of them are lighthearted and sweet, I also like that they usually focus on couples loving on each other amidst all of the holiday beauty and ambiance — which is something that all couples should set aside some time to do.
Maybe it’s a vacation. Maybe it’s a staycation. Or maybe it’s my personal favorite, A SEXCATION. Whether it’s for a few days, the weekend or even overnight — don’t you let the holidays go by without setting aside time for you and your man to celebrate one another. Don’t you dare (check out “Are You Ready To Have Some Very Merry 'Christmas Sex'?”).
GET. SOME. REST.
GiphyI once read that 8 out of 10 people get stressed out over the holidays and 3 out of 10 lose sleep during to it — and when you’re stress-filled and sleep-deprived, that can absolutely lead to hypersensitivity, making mountains out of molehills and even not being in the mood for sex.
Your relationship can’t afford to go through any of this, so definitely make sure to prioritize rest. I don’t care how unrealistic it might seem during this time, sleep should never be seen as a luxury; it will always and forever be a great necessity.
That said, try to get no less than six hours of shut-eye in (check out “6 Fascinating Ways Sex And Sleep Definitely Go Hand In Hand”) and even ask your bae to take a nap with you sometimes (check out “Wanna Have Some Next-Level Sex? Take A Nap, Sis.”). Not only will sleep help to restore your mind, body and spirit but, when it’s with your partner, it’s an act of intimacy that can make you both feel super connected, even in the midst of what might feel like chaos.
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Holiday season stress is real. Still, never give it the permission or power to throw your relationship off. Put you and your man first and let the holidays be what they are gonna be, chile.
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Using the same material from the interior of the Volvo EX90, Hudson crafted a wool-blend car coat and waistbelt that combine the vehicle’s Scandinavian design with his signature tailoring and intention. The exclusive collection launched on October 20, and each piece is made-to-order by Sergio Hudson Collections.
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In October, I traveled to Charleston with a group of journalists to get a firsthand look at Hudson and Volvo’s location. During a fitting, Hudson said his goal is to make “great work that can stand the test of time.”
“People can look back on and say, ‘I remember when Sergio did that collaboration with Volvo,’” he continued. “Thinking about aligning yourself with classic brands that speak to where you want to go. And I think that's what this collaboration kind of means to me and my business.”
Hudson pinpoints his mom as the biggest influence for his designs. This collaboration was no different.
“This particular coat reminded me of the swing coats that my mom used to wear in the early 90s. You know, diva girls in the early 90s had Sandra suits,” he said, referring to Jackée Harry’s character in 227. “My mom wore those and she would have these matching swing coats to go over them. And that's where the initial idea came. This would be around the same time that we had our Volvo. So she would put on her suit, her swing coat, get in that red Volvo, and go to church.”
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With this capsule and beyond, Hudson wants to see more staples rotating in and out of closets this fall. He advises fashionistas to build her closet out with essentials to mix and match that aren’t just stylish but also sustainable.
“It's just those special pieces,” he said. “You can wear the same shirt and pants every day and nobody will notice. But if you have a special boot, a special coat, a special bill, a special bag, that kind of speaks to everything that your style stands about, that is something you should focus on.”
These are the same kind of staple pieces that return to our Pinterest boards and TikTok feeds season after season. Fast fashion has never been Hudson’s aim. “I'm trying to create a special pieces that can stand the test of time,” he said in his warm, Southern accent. “I'm only creating those kind of pieces from here on out.”
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For Hudson, this collaboration is revolutionary. It’s his first time working with a car company and experimenting outside of his wheelhouse in this way.
“This is a Scandinavian brand, and, you know, it's 70 years old. I'm an African-American boy from South Carolina that has had a brand for 10 years. So I think bridging those two worlds and seeing the similarities was the beauty of this project,” he explained.
Though Hudson and his partner and CEO of Sergio Hudson Collections Inga Beckham have made massive strides in just 10 years, Hudson said the industry is far from where he wants to see it when it comes to Black representation. He pointed to how few Black designers were at this year’s Met Gala despite the theme being Black dandyism.
“The fact that I dressed 18 people speaks to how many of us weren't there,” he said. He implored more of industries, fashion and beyond, to collaborate with Black designers often.
“Allow mentorship. Allow funding. Allow great design to shine through,” he implored. “When it comes to being a designer of African descent, when you can't get the funding that your counterparts have, you can't compete. When you get opportunities like doing a collaboration with Volvo, or you get opportunities to be at the Met Gala, that's putting us on the equal playing field, but really the funding behind it is what we need to take it to that desk level.”
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