Love & Relationships
Although I wouldn’t exactly say that Mark Zuckerberg is one of my favorite people on the planet (at all),The Social Network — the movie that was made about him (and Facebook) back in 2010 — absolutely is. I like the writing, the wit, the quickness of it all. Plus, stories that talk about how ingenious concepts began always have a way of piquing my interest — and boy, when that man came up with Facebook and then decided to add relationship categories to the platform?
I mean, who doesn’t remember when they first saw that they could list their “hell, what are we?” dynamic as “it’s complicated” on their profile page? Here's the thing about that, though — let enough time and wisdom go by and you really will accept that, more times than not, situationships aren’t complicated.
All that’s really going on is one or both people are seeing flags that they are ignoring, and/or both people are not on the same page yet don’t want to fully face it, and/or one or both people don’t exactly know what they relationally want — whether that be in general or from each other. I’m telling you, at the end of the day, when you take emotions out and leave facts and reality in, usually things about relationships aren’t all that confusing…you just have to accept the real deal of the matter for what it truly is. Simple math. Over and out.
And that’s why we are going to explore the topic of talking vs. dating today, because, although it might seem like “talking” is a term that only high school and college-aged people — excuse me — talk about when it comes to relationships, that absolutely is not the case.
Actually, a few weeks ago, I had a 40-year-old client ask me what the real differences between talking and dating are — and although I will admit that the answer to that question may have a bit of nuance to it (based on each person’s perspective), I’m going to do my damndest to remove as much murkiness (i.e., confusion) from her inquiry as possible — for her sake and perhaps some of y’all’s too.
Ready?
The Truth About “Talking” And What It Really Means
Talking: Curious About Getting to Know Someone
Y’all doing videos while in bed is hilarious to me. LOL. And what she said? (See the creator's full video here.) That is why I stated in the intro that some of this is going to be based on personal opinion, for sure, because if you are wanting to fast track into dating or engagement or marriage — you absolutely wouldn’t be able to wrap your head around “talking” to someone for six months or longer.
Here’s the thing about that, though — what if things are long-distance? What if your schedules are so full that you only get to chat 1-2 times a week for a few minutes at a time or you find yourselves doing more texting than anything else? What if you are in the season of wanting to take things slow or you currently prefer to “talk to” more than one individual? EXACTLY.
Yeah, when you are in the talking stage/phase, the main thing to keep in mind is, this means that you have enough curiosity and interest that you want to get to know more about someone else. HOWEVER, if you’re not looking for something super serious, you probably won’t ask the same kinds of questions that you would if you desire to be married within the next two years or so.
And that is exactly why the talking stage may be longer for some than others. Some people may only want to keep things light and surface for a while and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that — so long as you both agree to cruise in that type of lane.
That said, though, in order to be clear that “talking” is pretty much all that the two of you are doing, here are some things about it to keep in mind about that stage of getting involved with another person.
5 Things to Look for During the Talking Stage
Okay, so you meet an attractive guy and there seems to be some chemistry there. If you were to use the phrase, “We’re just talking” to someone, what exactly does — or rather “should” — that mean?
1. Talking needs a connection. Although you might initially think “duh” when it comes to this, you’d be amazed by how many people think that they are in a conversation when really, it’s more like a monologue with an audience. And that is all because they are looking for attention more than a genuine connection. That said, if you are officially talking to someone, this means that both of you are truly interested in what the other has to say — and so you make time to connect (even if it’s just by phone, text or social media) in order to learn more.
2. Talking needs reciprocity. Some people might even wonder why there needs to be a talking stage at all — and one reason is for this next point: the talking season is about sharing and listening; it’s about seeing if you are “connected enough” to respect someone enough to care about their initial thoughts, interests, wants and needs as they do the same thing for you. And you know what? Honestly, a lot of people wouldn’t be so jaded in their relationships if they slowed TF down and did some real-deal talking first…because if the two of you can’t find mutual ground and respect in basic-level communication, how do you think you can be in a healthy long-term dynamic up the road?
3.Talking needs some sort of consistency. Just because talking isn’t as serious as dating, that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t have some consistency to it. And no, this doesn’t mean that you need to be called every morning or texted 10 times a day. There just needs to be some sort of effort that shows real interest. Meaning, if you are actually talking to someone, hearing from them shouldn’t shock you; this would only be the case if they reach out to you randomly—and if that is what’s going on, I wouldn’t even say that the two of you are “talking”…yet.
4. Talking needs some non-forced or performative effort. Does “the representative” show up when you’re just talking to someone? More times than not…absolutely (on your end not just his, by the way). However, a part of the reason why I am team coffee date is because, if you are truly going on dates in order to get to know someone better, when you’re first getting to know them, why should that take up hours and hours of your time? Instead of things being over-the-top and grand, talking should come with ease and as little stress and high expectations as possible.
Yeah, something that I like about the talking stage is since nothing is official, even a lil’ bit, both people can show more of their true colors when it comes to their communication style, how they like to interact and how often they prefer to do it. Since there are no real expectations yet, everyone can feel free to just…be themselves.
5.Talking needs honesty (especially about what both people are looking for). Speaking of being “free to be” — I was recently chatting it up with a male friend of mine about a woman who he was just “talking” to. Although he was hella attracted to her, he shared with me that he didn’t think that things were going to work out; it’s because he spends a lot of time on the road and she doesn’t seem to respect his schedule. “She calls and texts at hours when I’m not available and then gets upset if I don’t get back immediately. Girl, I am working.”
His situation is a blaring reminder to be honest with your own damn self about what you want and even require during the talking stage. That way, you don’t end up in what really could’ve been avoided once you actually are dating each other. Yep — if while talking, you already see serious “potholes” along the way…that’s what talking is for. TALK ABOUT IT and if “it” can’t be worked out, no harm, no foul. You were just talking. Scale back to being friends or part ways. All good.
Dating: Semi-Committed...to Getting to Know Someone…BETTER
Now I’m going to be super candid on this point — some people think that even dating is a serious, long-term relationship or like it’s damn near marriage. Soon enough, I’ll be writing about something that I have briefly touched on before: a boyfriend IS NOT a husband and a girlfriend IS NOT a wife. And you know what? Dating really isn’t boyfriend/girlfriend status either; it’s simply a step up from merely…talking.
And that’s why I included the video right above this section and the one at the very end because, if you are in a state of “what are we?” or you’re out here thinking that someone is dragging their feet, because you think that you should be further along than where the two of you are — that either sounds like you believe that dating is a full-blown relationship or that you’ve been moving like a girlfriend or even a fiancée without getting any real clarity or confirmation that you should.
It really can’t be said enough, y’all: Please always keep in mind that talking is not dating and dating is not an official exclusive dynamic. Like exclusivity gets you to engagement and then marriage — dating is what gets you to the exclusive portion of the program. Yeah, we really need to stop “bleeding everything” in together; that’s what causes so much drama and disappointment when it comes to relationships, more times than not.
5 Things to Pay Attention to While in Your Dating Season
Aight, so do me a favor and listen to the last video before reading the first of this (insert approximately one minute here). I’m sure you caught that the gentleman had no problem saying that he dated for a year before transitioning into something else. I’m sure you also noticed that the host struggled with hearing that. I think a big part of the reason why is because she felt that dating IS an exclusive relationship; it can’t be said enough that it isn’t.
In fact, did you know that there is a popular study that says it takes about 200 hours to consider someone to be a good friend (hmph, I even think that is too low to be a GOOD friend)? And if your partner is going to be, at the very least, one of your closet friends? I mean, there are 168 hours in a week, right? If you have a full life, you don’t have 25 hours a week to sit on the phone…right? Yes, to become friends, it takes time. To become more than friends — if you’re taking it seriously — even more time.
An average date lasts 2-3 hours. Put all of this together and it means that you would need 200 hours to become good friends and then 100 dates to take it to another level. Hmph. Sounds like about a year to me (*Elmo shrug*). At least if friendship as a foundation of your relationship is something that you desire.
And during that season of dating, here’s what you should be looking for:
1. Dating requires integrity. Just recently, I was talking to a client about how much his integrity sucks (and I am being so literal about that). It was in the context of him saying things in the moment and not following through. He admitted that he does it to keep the peace at the time and yet, because there aren’t enough consequences for when he doesn’t keep his word, he remains in that pattern of not really meaning what he says — even if he intends to. Hmph. I’m sure that most of y’all have heard the saying that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
To that, one of my favorite quotes is “Hell is truth seen too late.” (Thomas Hobbes) At the end of the day, integrity is about living by a certain code of morals and ethics — and being dependable and reliable should definitely apply to someone who is dating another person. Peep if he calls when he says that he will. If he shows up on time to planned events. If his words and actions line up. Evaluating integrity doesn’t happen overnight. Take your freakin’ time.
2. Dating requires proactiveness. Any time that I am asked about a favorite trait in a guy, I’m absolutely going to say, “That he’s proactive.” To me, reactive is so…lazy. It means that you are in a pattern of wanting to “put out fires” instead of preventing them — and that means that you don’t really prioritize things well. To be proactive is to be in a state of anticipation — and that means that you are intentional about keeping what’s important to you in mind. Dating reveals proactiveness vs. reactiveness like nobody’s business. Trust me when I tell you that.
3. Dating requires a certain level of intimacy. By definition, intimacy is about having a close and familiar relationship with someone else. Another definition: having detailed knowledge and a deep understanding of something or someone — and how you can expect this from “talking” only, the world will never know. And honestly, expecting this in the beginning stages of dating is a bit of a reach too. Learning more about another person means that you need to spend time with them — hell, not just time but quality time. That is when you ask insightful questions and listen to what their wants, needs and desires are (as they do the same for you).
And if you decide to take things up a notch on the physical level — hey, that’s totally up to you; however, as you can see, intimacy doesn’t automatically require that. Intimacy is simply about growing closer to and more familiar with another person — and yes, dating is designed to do that. With each date, more intimacy. If you are dating with intention (to transition into something more, in time), that is.
4. Dating requires being on the same page (basically at the same time). When folks jump from talking to a relationship — that is how they can end up feeling completely disillusioned because remember that talking is about seeing if there is a possible connection beyond attraction while dating is about scratching well beneath the surface. For instance, if you have sex while talking, you might THINK that you have a mental and emotional bond while the guy you’re seeing is simply seeing copulation as moments of physical pleasure. Yeah, that’s another cool thing about dating: with each date, you get to see if you are on the same page or not.
And since you are only dating, if after date five or date seven, you realize that you both want totally different things — no harm, no foul. You weren’t “official” and although you might be a bit disappointed, there is certainly nothing to feel distraught about or devastated over. He wasn’t your man; he was simply someone who you were…dating and for that reason, he didn’t get ALL of you. You “rationed” as necessary…as earned.
5. Dating requires progress. Do I think that dating takes time and, more importantly, more time than talking does? Clearly, I do. And yet, even with all that I’ve just said, I will also say this: When dating gets to the point where you feel like you’re in some sort of purgatory — something is very off. Whether you ultimately want marriage to come from dating or you simply want a more serious and significant dynamic with another person, one thing that dating can’t do is be stagnate — well, unless you’re a casual dater and there is such a thing.
And so yes, whether it takes you and someone three months to realize you both want more or it requires 365 days (give or take several weeks), please make sure that the dating that you’re doing is progressing — at the very least when it comes to you figuring out more of who you are and what you want or need from a relationship. Because honestly, that’s one of the main things that dating should do for everyone.
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TALK to establish an initial connection. DATE to build intimacy. Over time.
Make sense? I certainly hope so.
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