If your late '90s-early 2000s self is still holding out for a real Roc-A-Fella reunion between Dame Dash and Jay Z, don't hold your breath. Not when Dame's out there making some pretty bold claims against his former friend.
Dame, who helped a then locally known Jay Z become the worldwide mega superstar he is today, is coming after Jay's street credibility with sideways comments that Jigga may be affiliated with informants and may be the reason why their former business partner and Roc-A-Fella co-founder, Kareem "Biggs" Burke, is currently locked up.
The 43-year-old former mogul made the startling claims during a recent candid and extensive interview with Sway In The Morning where he gave us an update on his relationship with Jay after the two were pictured together twice in 2013.
While Dame didn't directly accuse Jay of snitching on Biggs and siccing the feds on him and their friend Irv Gotti, he did reference a New York Daily News article that said Jay was in business with Desiree Perez, a convicted drug trafficker who once worked as an informant for the government. It definitely sounded like he wanted us to read between the lines!
Catch what he said below.
Those moments [that we reunited]–-there were two. One was Chaka [Pilgrim’s] birthday. They were real adamant about me coming to her birthday, because I love Chaka like a little sister and I was gonna come through and-- I don’t have a beef with Jay. I never did. We just approach business different. And the other time was with my daughter [Ava]. We’re gentlemen. We’re men. We’ve done a lot. Just 'cause you don’t agree with a man, because you’re Black doesn’t mean you gotta fight or argue. You just have a different perspective.
At this very moment, just based on what I read in the paper--This is the one time that the paper did scare me, and I was like there has to be some truth to it. When I read about his affiliation with informants, that he’s in business with certain people. It’s tricky for me to say, but based on where I’m from, I can’t have nothing to do with that.
There’s paperwork. It's not not to believe. There's paperwork. That part of it scares me 'cause I know [Kareem “Biggs” Burke] is in jail. I know Irv Gotti has been harassed for years over sh-t he didn’t do. I know they’ve been f-cking with me for years. So it just means I need to stay over here.
I love Jay, but let’s say I found out any of that sh-t--I can’t f-ck with him at all. Because that’s how I was raised. It ain’t no disrespect. I don’t know how anyone else was raised, but that’s it. Ain’t nothing else to talk about. And it’s real serious for me cause my man's in jail for three years over weed. The Feds is really on me. It's not like they're not. Where I'm from, that sh-t is not tolerated at all! So because of that, I can't even really--that's the only conversation I could have with him until we can move forward. But that ain't for me to be airing out here. It's a question you asked. But just cause what I read in the media, I can't really be over there with him. I have no more opinions about it until I have a one-on-one with him just because of what I know. That's it.
No disrespect, but if you read that somebody that you used to mess with had AIDS, you read it and it might not be true, but you're concerned about it. You're gonna have to see them and have a conversation. That's it. I haven't had the conversation. When people ask me about [Jay Z] right now, there I am being politically correct 'cause I'm scared. That's fear. I'm on record saying that I don't know what the f-ck's going on. All I know is my man's in jail. All I know is my other man that was with me got a f-ckin' money laundering charge, some old stupid sh-t. Everybody knows Irv [Gotti] is not a criminal. The sh-t is real, man. And that's all I know. All I know is based on those rules, I just can't--that's that. And hopefully it's not what it's suppose to be. But if it is, that's that! [...]
People go to jail. This is people's freedom, man. We been trying to be stand-up, honorable people for the last 25 years and do right by. My man's in jail. I cried over that. That was my man. That's my man. He's in jail for weed and I don't know why. Why are the Feds on me so much? I don't know why. I'm not making no accusations, but based on where we're from...I'm staying over here. So that's it. There's no more business being done between me and [Jay Z] until I understand that situation. We don't do any business so it doesn't matter but that's my official "on the record."
The article Dame was referencing states:
While Perez is not an employee, officer or agent of Jay Z’s new agency, Roc Nation Sports, sources say she is a major behind-the-scenes influence.
“She’s directly involved with the athletes,” one baseball insider said. “She has a lot of power.”
Perez is also a convicted felon, with a long and wild history as a DEA cooperating witness and then a fugitive. She wore wires to meet with major cocaine traffickers, according to federal court transcripts obtained by the Daily News.
Watch the interview below: